The Tulo vs. Braun debate comes down to how you value their offensive and defensive contributions. For now, I want your opinion on defensive value, which has two components:

  • Relative Ability: Was Braun good, average, bad, or super bad?
  • Value Scale: Is “bad” -5 runs, -15 runs, or -50 runs?

Here’s what I want from you. In the comments, fill out the following ballot, first rating each listed player on their fielding talent relative to position. 1 is awful, like combining Mo Vaughn’s range with Chuck Knoblauch’s arm. 9 is awesome, like combining Juan Pierre’s speed with Vlad’s arm. Second, state how many runs above or below average, each rating point represents. For example, 7/10 might be +10 runs while 1/10 might be -50 runs. I don’t care if you have no idea. Just vote. (Copy and paste into comments.)

The ballot:

Rank 1 to 9, where 5 Is Average:
Troy Tulowitzky:
Ryan Braun:
Scott Rolen:
Albert Pujol:
Derek Jeter:
Mike Piazza:
Pudge Rodriguez:
Ryan Howard:
Ozzie Smith:
Manny Ramirez:

Runs relative to average for each rating where 0 is average:
1/9:
3/9:
5/9: 0
7/9:
9/9:

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7 Responses to “Your Take On Fielding”
  1. Brady says:

    Rank 1 to 9; 5 Is Average:
    Troy Tulowitzky -7
    Ryan Braun -3
    Scott Rolen -6
    Albert Pujols -7
    Derek Jeter -9
    Mike Piazza -2
    Pudge Rodriguez -8
    Ryan Howard -5
    Ozzie Smith -9
    Manny Ramirez -5

    Give a runs value for each rating, 0 being average:
    1/9:-20
    3/9:-10
    5/9: 0
    7/9:+75
    9/9: +100

  2. Brady says:

    I didn’t see the “above average” when writing my runs production. lets give this another try.

    Give a runs value for each rating, 0 being average:
    1/9:-20
    3/9:-10
    5/9: 0
    7/9:15
    9/9: 40

    see its confusing, cuz up above it says runs above average, but here its says “runs value”. hmm, i seem to have noticed the above average part for the negative numbers though

  3. Mike says:

    Mind you this is pure speculation, since I saw about 6 games of Tulowitzki this year, and 0 of Albert Pujols, and for fuck’s sake the last time I watched Ozzie play I’m pretty sure I thought girls were “yucky”, but:

    Troy Tulowitzky: 8
    Ryan Braun: 2
    Scott Rolen: 7
    Albert Pujol: 8
    Derek Jeter: 3
    Mike Piazza: 3
    Pudge Rodriguez: 7
    Ryan Howard: 2
    Ozzie Smith: 7
    Manny Ramirez: 3

    1/9:-30
    3/9:-15
    5/9:0
    7/9:15
    9/9:30

  4. MB says:

    Ahh, I give it a try …

    Rank 1 to 9, where 5 Is Average:
    Troy Tulowitzky: 7
    Ryan Braun: 2
    Scott Rolen: 7
    Albert Pujol: 7
    Derek Jeter: 2
    Mike Piazza: 2
    Pudge Rodriguez: 6
    Ryan Howard: 3
    Ozzie Smith: 8
    Manny Ramirez: 3

    Runs relative to average for each rating where 0 is average:
    1/9:-30
    3/9: -15
    5/9: 0
    7/9: 15
    9/9: 30

    It’s kind of tough trying to put all positions on the same scale … i.e., like Piazza is probably a 1 or 2 as a catcher, but I’m not sure he’s 30 runs below average. Yadier Molina may be a 8-9 but he surely isn’t +30 runs. Anyhow, It’ll be interesting to see the results.

  5. Sushirabbit says:

    Rank 1 to 9; 5 Is Average:
    Troy Tulowitzky 8
    Ryan Braun 4
    Scott Rolen 5
    Albert Pujols 7
    Derek Jeter 5
    Mike Piazza 2
    Pudge Rodriguez 6
    Ryan Howard 5
    Ozzie Smith 8
    Manny Ramirez 5

    Give a runs value for each rating, 0 being average:
    1/9:-24
    3/9:-8
    5/9: 0
    7/9:+9
    9/9: +27

  6. dan says:

    Troy Tulowitzky:8.5
    Ryan Braun:1
    Scott Rolen:8
    Albert Pujols:8
    Derek Jeter:3
    Mike Piazza:2
    Pudge Rodriguez:8
    Ryan Howard:1
    Ozzie Smith:9
    Manny Ramirez:4

    1/9:-20
    3/9:-10
    5/9: 0
    7/9:+10
    9/9: +20

  7. Josh says:

    Ranking all fielders relative to each other, not their positional average (by including positional adjustments).
    Rank 1 to 9, where 5 Is Average:
    Troy Tulowitzky: 8
    Ryan Braun: 2
    Scott Rolen: 7
    Albert Pujol: 6
    Derek Jeter: 5
    Mike Piazza: 5
    Pudge Rodriguez: 9
    Ryan Howard: 3
    Ozzie Smith: 9
    Manny Ramirez: 1

    Runs relative to average for each rating where 0 is average:
    1/9:-35
    3/9:-15
    5/9: 0
    7/9:15
    9/9:35

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